… Chuck Lazenby, executive director of the Unity Project, suggested a bigger response. What if we treated poverty like we did the pandemic — as a health issue?

“What if we said this is a public health crisis and we responded in that way?” she said. “We would be in a very different position.”

Lazenby said London has been tireless in helping the vulnerable, especially during the crisis. But they still don’t have livable incomes to pay rent, food and basic needs.

“We cannot continue to try new things without those adequate pieces right at the very bottom,” she said. “Without them we are banging our heads against the wall.”

Ontario Works doesn’t cut it. “How is someone on Ontario Works supposed to find a place for $400 a month? I don’t know,” she said.